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    A new adventure in modern watchmaking

    Vergo Avius
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    Message par Vergo Avius Mar 07 Juin 2011, 13:53

    Hello everyone , my name is Luigi Aguzzi and I am the creator of the brand “Vergo Avius”.
    We are a small group of young people united by a common idea.
    Together we have created “ Leonardo “ , which expresses our concept of modern watchmaking
    I write to invite you to expose your personal views about our product.
    We would like to gather as much information useful for the development of our upcoming products.
    We are available for any questions about this product.
    It 's important that you understand that our intention is to build a direct relationship with the public in order to have a transparent dialogue, this is not an advertisement.
    Thanks for your cooperation

    website : www.vergoavius.it
    Facebook: luigi Aguzzi
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    Message par Invité Mar 07 Juin 2011, 15:07

    Hello.

    It's better to post pics and specs of your products.

    Best.

    Caius
    cisco
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    Message par cisco Mar 07 Juin 2011, 15:24

    Hi Luigi

    First Congrats for the design!
    It is a real piece of work, quite original with a nice style.
    This is not so common. From the pure mechanics point of view I do not see anything extraordinary but that's done for real and well done.
    (There are so many drawings which are presented as finished watch and aren't).

    If you can put some photos and some datas here we will be glad <:i

    Thank you.
    Vergo Avius
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    Message par Vergo Avius Mar 07 Juin 2011, 18:14

    Hi Cisco, Caius.
    Here find same more info as required.
    At your disposal for every other questions.

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    TECHNICAL SPECIFICATIONS:
    Soprod 9094: Base Eta 2892-2a + Add. Module for Calendar/ power reserve ind.
    Self-Winding mechanical movement with:
    Central seconds, Date with backward hand, Day.
    Power reserve of 42 hours
    Rotations: 28,800 per hours
    30 Jewels
    Balance: Glucydur
    Spiral: Anachrom
    Spring: Nivaflex M
    Shock absorber : Incabloc
    Assortment: Chronometer
    Winding stem functions: Manual winding / fast date correction / hour setting with stop second
    Water resistant up to 100 metres (10 ATM)

    EXTERIOR COMPONENTS:

    Bezel and Back made of Titanium G5 Certificated with PVD treatment
    Case made of a spcial Alloy used in F1 (All. Alloy 7068) with PVD treatment
    Top screwed with four screws, sapphire cristal with double antiglare treatment
    Back screwed with four screws, sapphire cristal with darkening treatment
    Crown with locking screw
    Multi-layer dial with fine satin finishing, hand applies bee's nest, numbers with superluminova treatment.
    Hand with Nickel surface finishing and superluminova treatment
    Allergenic rubber bracelet
    Titanium Buckle with double opening, surface tretment
    cisco
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    Message par cisco Mar 07 Juin 2011, 18:45

    Thank you Luigi accord

    Very automobile inspired designed but there have been quite worse in this direction, it still remains quite pure.
    I really appreciate it.

    3 questions

    Size? L*l*h
    Weight? If the material is well chosen it may be under 70g?
    Price ?
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    Message par Vergo Avius Mar 07 Juin 2011, 19:04

    cisco a écrit:Thank you Luigi accord

    Very automobile inspired designed but there have been quite worse in this direction, it still remains quite pure.
    I really appreciate it.

    3 questions

    Size? L*l*h
    Weight? If the material is well chosen it may be under 70g?
    Price ?

    Thanks

    1- L 48, l 46 (with crown), h 14.3
    2- under 70g it's very difficult it's about 96g
    3- € 6250

    Ciao
    cisco
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    Message par cisco Mar 07 Juin 2011, 19:22

    The dimensions are OK, a bit thick imho but still wearable, 48 is what you have on classical 40mm watch from lugs to lugs (ROlex submariner for example).
    I thought of Richard Mille looking at the watch Smile but the architecture is different and the caliber too. Still light for the size.

    Price is (like always for amateurs Smile ) a bit high. But there is a true research on the case and on the dial with something not seen anywhere else before.
    Much aprreciated from my side accord

    100m is a good waterproof depth, well done.

    I wish you success <:i


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    Vergo Avius
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    Message par Vergo Avius Mar 07 Juin 2011, 19:35

    cisco a écrit:The dimensions are OK, a bit thick imho but still wearable, 48 is what you ahve on classical 40mm watch from lugs to lugs (ROlex submariner for example).
    I thought of Richard Mille looking at the watch Smile but the architecture is different and the caliber too. Still light for the size.

    Price is (like always for amateurs Smile ) a bit high. But there is a true research on the case and on the dial with something not seen anywhere else before.
    Much aprreciated from my side accord

    100m is a good waterproof depth, well done.

    I wish you success <:i

    Thanks again
    The price depends from the small quantity and the very long tooling time on the case.
    But I still agree with your point of view. accord

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    Message par Invité Mar 07 Juin 2011, 22:23

    Thanks for this presentation.

    Your work is very interesting. The technicals choices are not so easy for a first watch.

    I wish you a lot of sucess and if you come in Paris, I would really like to see your baby!

    Best

    Caius
    Vergo Avius
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    Message par Vergo Avius Mar 07 Juin 2011, 22:48

    Caius a écrit:Thanks for this presentation.

    Your work is very interesting. The technicals choices are not so easy for a first watch.

    I wish you a lot of sucess and if you come in Paris, I would really like to see your baby!

    Best

    Caius

    Thanks, I hope to be in Paris soon
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    Message par foversta Mar 07 Juin 2011, 23:00

    Hi Luigi.

    I believe that the aim of your post is to get feedbacks. Thanks for your will to post here, we really appreciate direct talk with designers and watchmakers. So I will give you mine even if it is not a positive one.

    Frankly speaking, the watch seems to me as a gathering of some watchmaking design gimmicks.

    The watch lacks a sort of an overall design which would make it more coherent... more attractive, in fact I would like to know the idea and the ambition behind even if some details are nice. Moreover, there are maybe too many colors on the dial and the bezel is a bit too thick for my taste. On the positive side, I like the case curves.

    But maybe I will change my mind if I see the watch in the metal. Maybe in Rome later this year? I will contact you.

    Anyway, as I often say, it is better to get very positive or negative feelings rather than lukewarm comments.

    I wish you the best for the future.

    Vergo Avius
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    Message par Vergo Avius Mer 08 Juin 2011, 00:14

    foversta a écrit:Hi Luigi.

    I believe that the aim of your post is to get feedbacks. Thanks for your will to post here, we really appreciate direct talk with designers and watchmakers. So I will give you mine even if it is not a positive one.

    Frankly speaking, the watch seems to me as a gathering of some watchmaking design gimmicks.

    The watch lacks a sort of an overall design which would make it more coherent... more attractive, in fact I would like to know the idea and the ambition behind even if some details are nice. Moreover, there are maybe too many colors on the dial and the bezel is a bit too thick for my taste. On the positive side, I like the case curves.

    But maybe I will change my mind if I see the watch in the metal. Maybe in Rome later this year? I will contact you.

    Anyway, as I often say, it is better to get very positive or negative feelings rather than lukewarm comments.

    I wish you the best for the future.


    Thanks, I appreciated your comments.
    Our intention is to test the feelings of our work and gather information for the future, there is no better way to hit the target.
    I personally find it harmonious, but in fact the dial is too dense of information.

    See you soon
    cisco
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    Message par cisco Mer 08 Juin 2011, 08:20

    Ok I understand more at which point you are

    .Personnaly I like the thickness of the bezel it gives character
    The two V's on the dial are too much. You can keep them because of the name of the brand but maybe not that way.
    I would not make too much shape but more work on the material and the effect given.

    .All mat can look a bit cheap but if it is well presented it can be Ok.

    .Some more metal parts (sandblasted)on the dial may give a less cheap look than painting imho, but it has to go with the automobile design that is given.
    .The hands with holes are reminding me of BRM. And I do not like that on the Hand. I think a plain hands with no black painting and bome Brushed sandblasted effect will look better.
    trinque

    Just my taste and my 2 cents.
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    Message par Vergo Avius Mer 08 Juin 2011, 23:29

    cisco a écrit:Ok I understand more at which point you are

    .Personnaly I like the thickness of the bezel it gives character
    The two V's on the dial are too much. You can keep them because of the name of the brand but maybe not that way.
    I would not make too much shape but more work on the material and the effect given.

    .All mat can look a bit cheap but if it is well presented it can be Ok.

    .Some more metal parts (sandblasted)on the dial may give a less cheap look than painting imho, but it has to go with the automobile design that is given.
    .The hands with holes are reminding me of BRM. And I do not like that on the Hand. I think a plain hands with no black painting and bome Brushed sandblasted effect will look better.
    trinque

    Just my taste and my 2 cents.


    Thanks for your opinion, unfortunately the hands on those images are not so cleary visibles because are very differents from B.R.M. version and are nichel plated blilliants and a very particular shape.
    The all matt finishing want to give to the product a technical look .
    At your disposal for every other question.
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    Message par Vergo Avius Lun 13 Juin 2011, 00:10

    Vergo Avius a écrit:
    cisco a écrit:Ok I understand more at which point you are

    .Personnaly I like the thickness of the bezel it gives character
    The two V's on the dial are too much. You can keep them because of the name of the brand but maybe not that way.
    I would not make too much shape but more work on the material and the effect given.

    .All mat can look a bit cheap but if it is well presented it can be Ok.

    .Some more metal parts (sandblasted)on the dial may give a less cheap look than painting imho, but it has to go with the automobile design that is given.
    .The hands with holes are reminding me of BRM. And I do not like that on the Hand. I think a plain hands with no black painting and bome Brushed sandblasted effect will look better.
    trinque

    Just my taste and my 2 cents.


    Thanks for your opinion, unfortunately the hands on those images are not so cleary visibles because are very differents from B.R.M. version and are nichel plated blilliants and a very particular shape.
    The all matt finishing want to give to the product a technical look .
    At your disposal for every other question.


    A new adventure in modern watchmaking 245_le10

    This image is more clear about hands.
    Best regards
    Vergo Avius
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    Message par Vergo Avius Ven 17 Juin 2011, 13:57

    Vergo Avius a écrit:
    Vergo Avius a écrit:
    cisco a écrit:Ok I understand more at which point you are

    .Personnaly I like the thickness of the bezel it gives character
    The two V's on the dial are too much. You can keep them because of the name of the brand but maybe not that way.
    I would not make too much shape but more work on the material and the effect given.

    .All mat can look a bit cheap but if it is well presented it can be Ok.

    .Some more metal parts (sandblasted)on the dial may give a less cheap look than painting imho, but it has to go with the automobile design that is given.
    .The hands with holes are reminding me of BRM. And I do not like that on the Hand. I think a plain hands with no black painting and bome Brushed sandblasted effect will look better.
    trinque

    Just my taste and my 2 cents.


    Thanks for your opinion, unfortunately the hands on those images are not so cleary visibles because are very differents from B.R.M. version and are nichel plated blilliants and a very particular shape.
    The all matt finishing want to give to the product a technical look .
    At your disposal for every other question.


    A new adventure in modern watchmaking 245_le10

    This image is more clear about hands.
    Best regards

    I hope that this image is sufficiently clear to finish the work begun on the surface finish.
    I would appreciate your point of view

    thanks
    cisco
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    Message par cisco Ven 17 Juin 2011, 14:32

    I am sorry Vergo, I am not that sure to see the good shape . Embarassed
    But they are original, that's true accord
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    Message par Vergo Avius Ven 17 Juin 2011, 15:28

    cisco a écrit:I am sorry Vergo, I am not that sure to see the good shape . Embarassed
    But they are original, that's true accord

    Don't worry Cisco.

    Thanks
    Vergo Avius
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    Message par Vergo Avius Mer 22 Juin 2011, 09:59

    Good morning,
    something we neglected to mention is the origin of the components of our products.
    All components from the 'smallest screw to the packaging of our products are made in an area with a radius of 300 km between Switzerland and northern Italy.

    Thanks, best regards
    Vergo Avius
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    Message par Vergo Avius Jeu 23 Juin 2011, 16:42

    As mentioned in the 'last message, Find here the Vergo Avius production sites



    Case: Modena Italy (tolling, finiscihng, coating, Gaskets ..)
    Screws and Crown: Como Italy (Part of tooling and finishing)
    Strap: Belluno Italy (complitely)
    Movement: Les Reussilles Switzerland (except.. Base ETA)
    Mass: Geneve Switzerland
    Dial: Mendrisio Switzerland
    Hands: The chaux des Fondes Switzerland
    Boucle Biel Switzerland
    Oak Woden Box: Alessandria Italy



    Just to be transparent



    Best regards
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    Message par Invité Jeu 23 Juin 2011, 16:50

    Do you have hot live pics Wink
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    Message par Vergo Avius Ven 24 Juin 2011, 09:10

    Caius a écrit:Do you have hot live pics Wink

    Hello, we have several images of the creative phase and assembly, but I don't think you can understand if they come from the working area of which I have mentioned various places.

    I take full responsibility of the transmitted data here and on other occasions.

    Best regards

    Louigi Aguzzi

    You could find the images on:

    http://www.vergoavius.it/ita/index.html
    https://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/Vergo-Avius/182580868445510?sk=wall
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    Message par Vergo Avius Ven 01 Juil 2011, 09:12


    Une petite vidéo amateur afin de comprendre l'horloge "nous l'avons mentionné ci-dessus

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    Message par thomasm Ven 01 Juil 2011, 09:59

    Vergo Avius a écrit:
    Une petite vidéo amateur afin de comprendre l'horloge "nous l'avons mentionné ci-dessus


    Merci pour la vidéo!
    Vergo Avius
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    Message par Vergo Avius Lun 04 Juil 2011, 07:39


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