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    Message par Admin Mar 17 Fév 2009, 15:37

    Crédit http://www.finertimes.com/asp/articles/tudor.asp


    Tudor and the French Navy: a love story?


    by Saad Zinai

    Rolex
    did not have the same commercial success with the Tudor Submariner as
    with its parents, the Rolex 5512 and 5513 Submariners. Tudors were sold
    at a fraction of the 5513 price and so it was not difficult for the
    French Navy (La Marine Nationale) to negotiate a good deal for
    significant number of pieces.

    Unlike contracts for the U.S. and
    British Royal Navy, which specified all the characteristics of
    timepieces from size to materials, the French government contracts were
    purely commercial contracts. Therefore, the Marine Nationale (or M.N.)
    provided its divers with many different watches including Zenith, Doxa,
    Longines, Rolex, Blancpain, Beuchat, Auricoste and many others. But
    that's another story.


    Early on, the French Navy equipped
    its divers (plongeurs de bord) with Tudor Submariners. The first Tudors
    were purchased by the M.N. in the late 60's. This model seemed to meet
    army specifications for Commando Marines. It was then the classic
    "rose" model, (see right) featuring case reference 7928 and the
    Rolex-derived 390 movement. Curiously, this model had the same sharp
    crown shoulders as the first Rolex 5512. The back is prominent and flat
    (unlike the bubble-back-like of that of further models). These models
    do not hack, but backwards action will stop the movement.

    Tudor Submariner Tudseals



    Unfortunately,
    Rolex kept no manufacturing records for these watches, and therefore,
    it remains difficult to date them accurately. A good indication is the
    date marked inside the back (something like I-67, for first quarter
    1967, according to Rolex)

    Ironically, the same model was
    issued by the U.S. Navy to their UDT and Navy SEALS (see Marvin
    Whitney's Military Timepieces for more details). Like their american
    cousins, the M.N. Tudors were always issued "head only." The absence of
    any sign of wear between lugs that a metal bracelet might have produced
    is a good clue for purists.

    In 1974, the M.N. started to
    extensively equip their commando marines with Tudor submariners. From
    this point, most of the watches (except a few, for some "sterile"
    reasons) are marked on the back MN 19xx or MNxx. This date -1974- is
    very important from a collector's point of view. This transitional
    model (case reference 7016/0) always has a black dial and "square" or
    "diamond hands" (see below) The case back is slightly different from
    subsequent models in that it retains somewhat of a "bubble back" look.
    The movement is now an ETA 2483, non-hack, no longer found on the
    earlier models. Of course, the rose is no longer the Tudor emblem,
    replaced in the late 60's by the current shield.

    Tudor Submariner MN742
    Tudor Submariner MN74pbak
    Tudor Submariner MN74mov




    The
    poor quality of the dial coating and its vulnerability to moisture led
    Rolex to propose another dial. Starting in 1975 dials with a blue
    finish were introduced which had much better tolerability to water.
    These dials had square then "Mercedes" style markers and hands (see
    images to the right.) These blue dials proved to be an excellent choice
    in that the dials were coated with an enameled material which prevents
    ageing. I have seen (and own) many mercedes-ed Tudors, with ruined
    cases, faded bezels, brownish hands. The dial was always intact ! The
    case reference is now 9401/0 or 94010, and the movement is the current
    ETA.
    I don't know of any model issued after 1983. Most of The
    Tudor submariners were auctioned by the army, according to their date
    of end of service. Some of them are being (as I type this...) destroyed
    manually by some troopers in Toulon or Brest...I have tried to save
    some and share with you this piece of the French Naval history.

    MN 1982
    Tudor Submariner MN82p2



    MN 1983
    Tudor Submariner MN83



    Thanks to my friend Edward J. ROKE for his contribution



    Crédit http://watchcaliber.free.fr/MarineNationale.html


    Tudor Submariner Imgtudormn78nato8lg


    The
    French Navy, La Marine Nationale, has a long lasting history of using
    the Tudor and Rolex submariner models. Indeed, the M.N. official diving
    equipment supplier, La Spirotechnique, signed a succession of
    commercial contracts with the Swiss watchmaker from the late 60's till
    the mid 80's. The Tudor submariners were supplied to the French Navy's
    picked divers such as the Clearance Divers (Plongeurs Démineurs), the
    Combat Divers (Commandos Marine), and a few selected Ship Divers
    (Plongeurs de Bord). Being a Ship Diver was then a part-time activity
    or secondary duty for sailors onboard. In addition to the elite
    personnel mentioned above, a handful of Combat Diver officers serving
    in the C.I.N.C. (secret service operational team based on the outer
    island of Cosica in the Mediterranean sea) were equipped with the
    famous Rolex submariner 5513.

    This very well built and
    reliable official chronographer were to be used in the most difficult
    weather conditions. In the early 80's the Tudor submariners were slowly
    replaced by cheaper maintenance watches as the Ministry of Defense was
    undergoing a severe budget cut. The 1989 Rainbow Warrior scandal led to
    the relocation of the C.I.N.C.(renamed C.P.E.O.M.) and the
    S.D.E.C.E.(renamed D.G.S.E.) and a new contract with Tudor S.A. was not
    to be renewed

    Tudor Submariner Imgtudmn78face3djTudor Submariner Imgtudmn78dos6xx



    Tudor Marine Nationale :
    Ref. 94010 MN78
    Cal. Eta 2824-2
    Hacking rotor automatic movement
    25j.-28.800 A/h
    Power reserve 38h.
    Water-resistant to 200m.
    Matt blue dial
    Square/diamond type handset
    Buble type case back

    Tudor Submariner Imgtudmn78hands6po



    Matt blue dial with square/diamond hour hand and markers

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