montresmecaniques.forumactif.com ( montres mécaniques, horlogerie, mouvement )

Vous souhaitez réagir à ce message ? Créez un compte en quelques clics ou connectez-vous pour continuer.

montresmecaniques

Le Deal du moment : -28%
Précommande : Smartphone Google Pixel 8a 5G ...
Voir le deal
389 €

+4
FGB
amanico
DrStrong
p@trice
8 participants

    Antiquorum 14 Septembre 2011 New York

    p@trice
    p@trice


    Antiquorum 14 Septembre 2011 New York  Empty Antiquorum 14 Septembre 2011 New York

    Message par p@trice Dim 11 Sep 2011, 22:24

    C'est la rentrée chez Antiquorum New York, j'ai sélectionné quelques pièces m'ayant interpellé ... Vous pouvez ajouter d'autres montres si le coeur vous en dit !

    Le cataloque est accessible ... ICI

    Une Rolex 1655 Freccionne complete de 1972 ...

    Antiquorum 14 Septembre 2011 New York  31

    Estimation de 8500e et 12000e ...

    Une Rolex Daytona 6241 or jaune PN ...

    Antiquorum 14 Septembre 2011 New York  44

    Estimation entre 57000e et 85000e ...

    Une autre Rolex Daytona or jaune sur cuir mais double signée par Tiffany, 1967 ...

    Antiquorum 14 Septembre 2011 New York  45

    Estimée entre 28000 et 42000e !

    Un chronographe Vacheron Constantin acier années 30 ...

    Antiquorum 14 Septembre 2011 New York  67

    Estimation entre 8500 et 12000e ...

    Pour Florent Antiquorum 14 Septembre 2011 New York  61526 , une Patek Philippe 5011, une Gondolo or jaune sur or jaune, une SL pour Cortina Singapour !

    Antiquorum 14 Septembre 2011 New York  78

    Estmée entre 14000e et 2000e

    Un quantième perpétuel Patek Philippe 5038 en or blanc, LE 500ex. en 1996.

    Antiquorum 14 Septembre 2011 New York  Captur17

    Estimation entre 25000e et 40000e ...

    Rolex 6609 Thunderbird ... Hey Franz Wink

    Antiquorum 14 Septembre 2011 New York  174

    Estimation 3500e et 5000e ...

    Rolex GMT 1675 Full set 1979 ...

    Antiquorum 14 Septembre 2011 New York  226

    estimée entre 5000e et 6500e ...

    Une Rolex 1019 Milgauss dial noir, 1969, full set ...

    Antiquorum 14 Septembre 2011 New York  228

    Estimation entre 18000e et 25000e ...

    Un eRolex 6538 de 1956 avec des papiers de service de 1981 ...

    Antiquorum 14 Septembre 2011 New York  230

    Estimé entre 25000e et 45000e ... Antiquorum 14 Septembre 2011 New York  61526

    Tudor 7928 de 1958 ...

    Antiquorum 14 Septembre 2011 New York  234

    Estimation entre 11000e et 14000e ...

    Panerai Mare Nostrum PRE-V 304 Slytech N°20 sans boite ni papiers ...

    Antiquorum 14 Septembre 2011 New York  257

    Estimation entre 7000e et 11000e affraid

    Chronographe rattrapante coaxial Patek Philippe 1436, modèle unique ?

    Antiquorum 14 Septembre 2011 New York  318

    Estimation entre 140000e et 20000e ...


    Ref 1436
    Split-seconds chronograph wristwatches were the "must" of Patek Philippe technology and after 1938 were generally cased with this reference. The majority are in yellow gold. Rarely, they are in pink gold, and only four stainless steel examples are known, three of which were sold by Antiquorum: Geneva, April 10, 1994, lot 431, Geneva, April 23, 1995, lot 457, Geneva, May 10, 2009, lot 161. In the mid-1950's some were produced with a coaxial button on the winding crown for the split-seconds functions (stop and reunite). Production of this reference ceased in 1971. First generation: stop and reunite functions of the split-second hand controlled by the winding crown. Second generation: stop and reunite functions of the split-second hand controlled by a co-axial button in the winding crown. The Split-Seconds Chronograph was designed to time two events which begin simultaneously but conclude at different times, as well as a single event for which an intermediate timing is necessary, such as horse or car races. Patek Philippe was one of the fi rst to introduce modern split-seconds chronographs - as early as 1862. (No. 17557, see Antiquorum, October 18, 1992, lot 590.) The split-seconds mechanism employs two central chronograph hands. Both hands are started at the same time. The splitseconds hand can be stopped while the chronograph hand continues to move. The split-seconds hand can be reunited with the chronograph hand in order to time another event. This complication is especially useful during sporting events such as a horse race, a car race or a ski race.
    Various dial combinations can be found throughout the production of the 1436 including Breguet numerals, Roman XII & VI combined with baton, dot or index markers as well as similar dials fi tted instead with Arabic 12 & 6 numerals. Very few were made with pulsations scales and these can be considered special orders. A signifi cant change in the appearance of the 1436 came when the split-second activation was modifi ed from depressing the crown, to depressing a button within the crown. At approximately the same time this feature was introduced the dial was updated from using an enclosed outer minute scale, to an open 1/5th second scale, both earlier and later versions usually had a tachometer with division numerals to the outer and the text 'base 1000' printed. Movement numbers 868993 to 868996 were fi tted with different dials to either the earlier or later standards and can be considered a transitional experiment by Patek Philippe. Numbers 868993 and 868996 were both fi tted with the same dial featuring 1/5ths seconds and tachometer track with division numerals printed to the inner, no 'base' text was used. They were similarly fi tted with 12 and 6 Arabic numerals and long baton markers. This lot, movement 868994 features the identical design dial but is fi tted with the shorter index markers. Number 868995 had a pulsations scale dial (the dial was later changed on number 868996). The same confi gured dial, fi tted with the alternative long baton markers, can be found in the book Patek Philippe Vol 2 by Martin Huber & Alan Banbery, pg. 208 and 273. The prior manufactured 1436 to this transitional sequence, 868992, featured a coaxial split-second button and earlier version dial with enclosed minute track and outer tachometer scale. The subsequently manufactured 1436, number 868997, used open 1/5ths seconds with tachometer scale featuring the numbers on the outside of the track and Base 1000 printed to the outer. This format became standard for later examples. Offered fresh to the market, this example of Ref.1436 can be considered one of the fi nest in yellow gold to have appeared. Made in 1960 the watch has survived in exceptional original condition with the inner case back displaying no repair marks and the case in apparent unpolished condition with virtually no evidence of use. In addition the crystal, strap, gold buckle and gold spring-bars, all of which are usually changed at some time during the life of a watch, all appear original. The dial is offered in rarely seen condition with no signifi cant sign of age. Considering the condition and rarity this lot is ideal for a collector seeking only the very best in vintage complications.

    Un superbe chronographe quantième perpétuel Patek Philippe ref. 2499 en or jaune de 1976 ...

    Antiquorum 14 Septembre 2011 New York  319

    Estimation entre 200000e et 280000e ...


    The Patek Philippe perpetual calendar chronograph, reference 2499, is perhaps the most sought after Patek Philippe complication by the majoprity of collectors. It replaced the earlier, smaller, ref.1518 in 1951 and remained in production until circa 1985 when it was replaced by the smaller diameter ref. 3970. With a now iconic, well-proportioned masculine case design, the ref. 2499 underwent 4 changes until it ceased production, with a total of only 349 made.
    - First series: From 1951 to circa 1960, square buttons, feuille hands, applied Arabic numerals, fl uted lugs. - Second series: Square buttons, dauphine hands, applied indexes, Arabic 12. - Third series: From 1960 to 1978, round buttons, dauphine or feuille hands, applied baton indexes. - Fourth series: From 1978 to circa 1985, becomes Ref. 2499/100, uses updated Caliber 13''' CCR, round buttons, sapphire crystal, dauphine hands, applied baton indexes.
    The present lot was previously sold by Antiquorum in 2001 as lot number 331, from the collection of Professor Thomas Engel in the theme auction “A Tribute to Precision and Complicated Timepieces & Professor Thomas Engel Collection”.
    Born in 1927, Thomas Engel started his own business in post-war Germany in plastics processing and invented a number of new materials and processing methods. Rather than becoming a manufacturer, Engel decided to sell licenses and collect royalties and was introduced to timepieces by a client in the 1950’s. Engel went on to collect, study, and catalog Breguet timepieces and became a self-taught watch, case and dial maker, creating watches bearing his name. He is the author of the book A.L. Breguet: Watchmaker to Kings.



    Dernière édition par p@trice le Mer 14 Sep 2011, 10:59, édité 1 fois
    DrStrong
    DrStrong


    Antiquorum 14 Septembre 2011 New York  Empty Re: Antiquorum 14 Septembre 2011 New York

    Message par DrStrong Dim 11 Sep 2011, 22:29

    C'est pas plutot une 7924 la Tudor ?
    amanico
    amanico


    Antiquorum 14 Septembre 2011 New York  Empty Re: Antiquorum 14 Septembre 2011 New York

    Message par amanico Dim 11 Sep 2011, 22:46

    Yep, Jeff, il y a une cou... dans le potage...

    7924, of course.
    p@trice
    p@trice


    Antiquorum 14 Septembre 2011 New York  Empty Re: Antiquorum 14 Septembre 2011 New York

    Message par p@trice Dim 11 Sep 2011, 22:50

    Effectivement, c'est bien une 7924, autant pour moi accord

    Sinon l y a deux 7928 dont une Gilt ...
    FGB
    FGB
    Admin


    Antiquorum 14 Septembre 2011 New York  Empty Re: Antiquorum 14 Septembre 2011 New York

    Message par FGB Dim 11 Sep 2011, 23:15

    accord

    Ici, bien entourée drunken

    Antiquorum 14 Septembre 2011 New York  9a0eaba5

    Une préférence sur cuir, j'ai des gouts simples Antiquorum 14 Septembre 2011 New York  195263


    Recherche rapide : 50 pcs uniquement.
    I love you
    cisco
    cisco


    Antiquorum 14 Septembre 2011 New York  Empty Re: Antiquorum 14 Septembre 2011 New York

    Message par cisco Mar 13 Sep 2011, 18:00

    La Tog me plait mais si la cote de celle ci dessous etait pas aussi folle j'en ferais bien mon quart d'heure pig
    Antiquorum 14 Septembre 2011 New York  84
    credit: Paul Boutros
    Anonymous
    Invité
    Invité


    Antiquorum 14 Septembre 2011 New York  Empty Re: Antiquorum 14 Septembre 2011 New York

    Message par Invité Mar 13 Sep 2011, 18:53

    p@trice a écrit:

    Antiquorum 14 Septembre 2011 New York  44


    Jolie sélection ! Mais je sens que je vais te faire bondir... ce qui m'excite le plus là-dedans, c'est ce riveté toutor ! Antiquorum 14 Septembre 2011 New York  2847651729
    Je vais arrêter les montres et commencer une collection de pliés et de rivetés : moins cher, pas de révision, une vraie collec, pas d'emmerdements avec la patine qui ceci ou cela, etc
    Antiquorum 14 Septembre 2011 New York  350521
    p@trice
    p@trice


    Antiquorum 14 Septembre 2011 New York  Empty Re: Antiquorum 14 Septembre 2011 New York

    Message par p@trice Mar 13 Sep 2011, 20:26

    dirost a écrit:

    Jolie sélection ! Mais je sens que je vais te faire bondir... ce qui m'excite le plus là-dedans, c'est ce riveté toutor ! Antiquorum 14 Septembre 2011 New York  2847651729


    Les deux m'excitent pig

    Sur un chronographe Daytona, sur une 1680/8, ça le fait sunny

    dirost a écrit:

    Je vais arrêter les montres et commencer une collection de pliés et de rivetés : moins cher, pas de révision, une vraie collec, pas d'emmerdements avec la patine qui ceci ou cela, etc
    Antiquorum 14 Septembre 2011 New York  350521


    Là, tu me fais penser à ceux qui investissent dans des ... Box/garages Wink

    Pas de révision, pas certain !

    Si le riveté ou le plié a été porté, c'est passage par la case restauration Antiquorum 14 Septembre 2011 New York  954980
    imo
    imo


    Antiquorum 14 Septembre 2011 New York  Empty Re: Antiquorum 14 Septembre 2011 New York

    Message par imo Mer 14 Sep 2011, 10:44

    Merci Patrice pour le lien mais il me renvoie à un catalogue de mars. Bug Question

    En tout cas ca ne vaut plus rien une Slytech 304 Laughing
    p@trice
    p@trice


    Antiquorum 14 Septembre 2011 New York  Empty Re: Antiquorum 14 Septembre 2011 New York

    Message par p@trice Mer 14 Sep 2011, 10:57

    imo a écrit:Merci Patrice pour le lien mais il me renvoie à un catalogue de mars. Bug Question


    Non, j'ai simplement mis un mauvais lien jocolor

    Septembre 2011

    imo a écrit:

    En tout cas ca ne vaut plus rien une Slytech 304 Laughing


    Si je m'écoutais Antiquorum 14 Septembre 2011 New York  195263

    Anonymous
    Invité
    Invité


    Antiquorum 14 Septembre 2011 New York  Empty Re: Antiquorum 14 Septembre 2011 New York

    Message par Invité Mer 14 Sep 2011, 11:21

    Pas vilaine celle-ci :

    Antiquorum 14 Septembre 2011 New York  174

    L'estimation pas délirante (3,000 USD - 5,000 USD).
    Anonymous
    Invité
    Invité


    Antiquorum 14 Septembre 2011 New York  Empty Re: Antiquorum 14 Septembre 2011 New York

    Message par Invité Mer 14 Sep 2011, 11:23

    Et la petite dessous :

    Antiquorum 14 Septembre 2011 New York  178

    2,500 USD - 3,500 USD
    Anonymous
    Invité
    Invité


    Antiquorum 14 Septembre 2011 New York  Empty Re: Antiquorum 14 Septembre 2011 New York

    Message par Invité Mer 14 Sep 2011, 12:33

    Et pour finir sur la vieille joncaille, cette petite avec sa boite si particulière :

    Antiquorum 14 Septembre 2011 New York  250

    2,000 USD - 3,000 USD
    Anonymous
    Invité
    Invité


    Antiquorum 14 Septembre 2011 New York  Empty Re: Antiquorum 14 Septembre 2011 New York

    Message par Invité Mer 14 Sep 2011, 12:36

    Bon, finalement, encore une !

    Antiquorum 14 Septembre 2011 New York  317

    12,000 USD - 18,000 USD
    Noodia
    Noodia
    Admin


    Antiquorum 14 Septembre 2011 New York  Empty Re: Antiquorum 14 Septembre 2011 New York

    Message par Noodia Mer 14 Sep 2011, 23:04

    et une dernière Shocked

    Antiquorum 14 Septembre 2011 New York  Aq11seplot95
    p@trice
    p@trice


    Antiquorum 14 Septembre 2011 New York  Empty Re: Antiquorum 14 Septembre 2011 New York

    Message par p@trice Sam 01 Oct 2011, 18:36

    p@trice a écrit:C'est la rentrée chez Antiquorum New York, j'ai sélectionné quelques pièces m'ayant interpellé ... Vous pouvez ajouter d'autres montres si le coeur vous en dit !

    Le cataloque est accessible ... ICI

    Une Rolex 1655 Freccionne complete de 1972 ...

    Antiquorum 14 Septembre 2011 New York  31

    Estimation de 8500e et 12000e ...


    16000e

    p@trice a écrit:

    Une Rolex Daytona 6241 or jaune PN ...

    Antiquorum 14 Septembre 2011 New York  44

    Estimation entre 57000e et 85000e ...


    82500e

    p@trice a écrit:

    Une autre Rolex Daytona or jaune sur cuir mais double signée par Tiffany, 1967 ...

    Antiquorum 14 Septembre 2011 New York  45

    Estimée entre 28000 et 42000e !


    82500e

    p@trice a écrit:

    Un chronographe Vacheron Constantin acier années 30 ...

    Antiquorum 14 Septembre 2011 New York  67

    Estimation entre 8500 et 12000e ...


    12000e

    p@trice a écrit:

    Pour Florent Antiquorum 14 Septembre 2011 New York  61526 , une Patek Philippe 5011, une Gondolo or jaune sur or jaune, une SL pour Cortina Singapour !

    Antiquorum 14 Septembre 2011 New York  78

    Estmée entre 14000e et 20000e


    Non vendue !

    p@trice a écrit:

    Un quantième perpétuel Patek Philippe 5038 en or blanc, LE 500ex. en 1996.

    Antiquorum 14 Septembre 2011 New York  Captur17

    Estimation entre 25000e et 40000e ...


    42000e

    p@trice a écrit:

    Rolex 6609 Thunderbird ... Hey Franz Wink

    Antiquorum 14 Septembre 2011 New York  174

    Estimation 3500e et 5000e ...


    4600e

    p@trice a écrit:

    Rolex GMT 1675 Full set 1979 ...

    Antiquorum 14 Septembre 2011 New York  226

    estimée entre 5000e et 6500e ...


    Non vendue !

    p@trice a écrit:

    Une Rolex 1019 Milgauss dial noir, 1969, full set ...

    Antiquorum 14 Septembre 2011 New York  228

    Estimation entre 18000e et 25000e ...


    33600e

    p@trice a écrit:

    Une Rolex 6538 de 1956 avec des papiers de service de 1981 ...

    Antiquorum 14 Septembre 2011 New York  230

    Estimé entre 25000e et 45000e ... Antiquorum 14 Septembre 2011 New York  61526


    57500e

    p@trice a écrit:

    Tudor 7928 de 1958 ...

    Antiquorum 14 Septembre 2011 New York  234

    Estimation entre 11000e et 14000e ...


    Non vendue !

    p@trice a écrit:

    Panerai Mare Nostrum PRE-V 304 Slytech N°20 sans boite ni papiers ...

    Antiquorum 14 Septembre 2011 New York  257

    Estimation entre 7000e et 11000e affraid


    18500e ... Basketball

    p@trice a écrit:

    Chronographe rattrapante coaxial Patek Philippe 1436, modèle unique ?

    Antiquorum 14 Septembre 2011 New York  318

    Estimation entre 140000e et 200000e ...


    Ref 1436
    Split-seconds chronograph wristwatches were the "must" of Patek Philippe technology and after 1938 were generally cased with this reference. The majority are in yellow gold. Rarely, they are in pink gold, and only four stainless steel examples are known, three of which were sold by Antiquorum: Geneva, April 10, 1994, lot 431, Geneva, April 23, 1995, lot 457, Geneva, May 10, 2009, lot 161. In the mid-1950's some were produced with a coaxial button on the winding crown for the split-seconds functions (stop and reunite). Production of this reference ceased in 1971. First generation: stop and reunite functions of the split-second hand controlled by the winding crown. Second generation: stop and reunite functions of the split-second hand controlled by a co-axial button in the winding crown. The Split-Seconds Chronograph was designed to time two events which begin simultaneously but conclude at different times, as well as a single event for which an intermediate timing is necessary, such as horse or car races. Patek Philippe was one of the fi rst to introduce modern split-seconds chronographs - as early as 1862. (No. 17557, see Antiquorum, October 18, 1992, lot 590.) The split-seconds mechanism employs two central chronograph hands. Both hands are started at the same time. The splitseconds hand can be stopped while the chronograph hand continues to move. The split-seconds hand can be reunited with the chronograph hand in order to time another event. This complication is especially useful during sporting events such as a horse race, a car race or a ski race.
    Various dial combinations can be found throughout the production of the 1436 including Breguet numerals, Roman XII & VI combined with baton, dot or index markers as well as similar dials fi tted instead with Arabic 12 & 6 numerals. Very few were made with pulsations scales and these can be considered special orders. A signifi cant change in the appearance of the 1436 came when the split-second activation was modifi ed from depressing the crown, to depressing a button within the crown. At approximately the same time this feature was introduced the dial was updated from using an enclosed outer minute scale, to an open 1/5th second scale, both earlier and later versions usually had a tachometer with division numerals to the outer and the text 'base 1000' printed. Movement numbers 868993 to 868996 were fi tted with different dials to either the earlier or later standards and can be considered a transitional experiment by Patek Philippe. Numbers 868993 and 868996 were both fi tted with the same dial featuring 1/5ths seconds and tachometer track with division numerals printed to the inner, no 'base' text was used. They were similarly fi tted with 12 and 6 Arabic numerals and long baton markers. This lot, movement 868994 features the identical design dial but is fi tted with the shorter index markers. Number 868995 had a pulsations scale dial (the dial was later changed on number 868996). The same confi gured dial, fi tted with the alternative long baton markers, can be found in the book Patek Philippe Vol 2 by Martin Huber & Alan Banbery, pg. 208 and 273. The prior manufactured 1436 to this transitional sequence, 868992, featured a coaxial split-second button and earlier version dial with enclosed minute track and outer tachometer scale. The subsequently manufactured 1436, number 868997, used open 1/5ths seconds with tachometer scale featuring the numbers on the outside of the track and Base 1000 printed to the outer. This format became standard for later examples. Offered fresh to the market, this example of Ref.1436 can be considered one of the fi nest in yellow gold to have appeared. Made in 1960 the watch has survived in exceptional original condition with the inner case back displaying no repair marks and the case in apparent unpolished condition with virtually no evidence of use. In addition the crystal, strap, gold buckle and gold spring-bars, all of which are usually changed at some time during the life of a watch, all appear original. The dial is offered in rarely seen condition with no signifi cant sign of age. Considering the condition and rarity this lot is ideal for a collector seeking only the very best in vintage complications.


    212500e

    p@trice a écrit:

    Un superbe chronographe quantième perpétuel Patek Philippe ref. 2499 en or jaune de 1976 ...

    Antiquorum 14 Septembre 2011 New York  319

    Estimation entre 200000e et 280000e ...


    The Patek Philippe perpetual calendar chronograph, reference 2499, is perhaps the most sought after Patek Philippe complication by the majoprity of collectors. It replaced the earlier, smaller, ref.1518 in 1951 and remained in production until circa 1985 when it was replaced by the smaller diameter ref. 3970. With a now iconic, well-proportioned masculine case design, the ref. 2499 underwent 4 changes until it ceased production, with a total of only 349 made.
    - First series: From 1951 to circa 1960, square buttons, feuille hands, applied Arabic numerals, fl uted lugs. - Second series: Square buttons, dauphine hands, applied indexes, Arabic 12. - Third series: From 1960 to 1978, round buttons, dauphine or feuille hands, applied baton indexes. - Fourth series: From 1978 to circa 1985, becomes Ref. 2499/100, uses updated Caliber 13''' CCR, round buttons, sapphire crystal, dauphine hands, applied baton indexes.
    The present lot was previously sold by Antiquorum in 2001 as lot number 331, from the collection of Professor Thomas Engel in the theme auction “A Tribute to Precision and Complicated Timepieces & Professor Thomas Engel Collection”.
    Born in 1927, Thomas Engel started his own business in post-war Germany in plastics processing and invented a number of new materials and processing methods. Rather than becoming a manufacturer, Engel decided to sell licenses and collect royalties and was introduced to timepieces by a client in the 1950’s. Engel went on to collect, study, and catalog Breguet timepieces and became a self-taught watch, case and dial maker, creating watches bearing his name. He is the author of the book A.L. Breguet: Watchmaker to Kings.


    280000e ...

    Amen !
    cisco
    cisco


    Antiquorum 14 Septembre 2011 New York  Empty Re: Antiquorum 14 Septembre 2011 New York

    Message par cisco Sam 01 Oct 2011, 22:01

    Merci Pat, sur les résultats que tu donnes ca fait quand même un peu mal de voir un superbe chrono VC partir aussi bas pendant que PP s'amsue dans d'autres sphères.
    La TOG en or avec son cadran trés patiné qui tape 4600, ca m'aide pas ca... Crying or Very sad
    Le Dayto en or Tiffany est superbe mais de là à faire à faire plus de 80k€ affraid
    C'est le marché c'est ainsi , y'a qu'à se jeter sur les AP et VC vintage qui finalement parte pour peau de balle comparé au produit.

    La Panerai est un "keeper" Wink
    gautier
    gautier


    Antiquorum 14 Septembre 2011 New York  Empty Re: Antiquorum 14 Septembre 2011 New York

    Message par gautier Dim 02 Oct 2011, 11:12

    cisco a écrit:Merci Pat, sur les résultats que tu donnes ca fait quand même un peu mal de voir un superbe chrono VC partir aussi bas pendant que PP s'amsue dans d'autres sphères.
    La TOG en or avec son cadran trés patiné qui tape 4600, ca m'aide pas ca... Crying or Very sad
    Le Dayto en or Tiffany est superbe mais de là à faire à faire plus de 80k€ affraid
    C'est le marché c'est ainsi , y'a qu'à se jeter sur les AP et VC vintage qui finalement parte pour peau de balle comparé au produit.

    La Panerai est un "keeper" Wink

    c'est clair que le prix du chrono VC.... si j'avais su Very Happy
    Après il est peut être un peu petit non ? (j'ai pas regardé)... mais quand même.

    C'est clair que ça sent la spéculation sur PP et Rolex quand même....

    Je suis d'accord à toi aussi, jetons nous sur les AP et VC tant qu'il est temps (et dès que j'ai les $$ Wink )

    Contenu sponsorisé


    Antiquorum 14 Septembre 2011 New York  Empty Re: Antiquorum 14 Septembre 2011 New York

    Message par Contenu sponsorisé


      La date/heure actuelle est Sam 18 Mai 2024, 01:13